Editing Demesne (section)

==Variant Demesnes ==
Mobile, underwater, or flying demesnes are all possible; but rare, and generally foolhardy. They are likely to be severely weakened or flawed as a result of violating tradition, and may not technically be considered "demesnes" by some.<ref name="Reddit2">They are, but keep in mind the power of tradition and culture, especially with the big things & the personally defining things.<br><br>You can get a face tattoo and you know, you ~could~ get virtually any job or position, you could date people just fine, meet the parents, start your own business, whatever... But it's going to be a lot harder than if you didn't have a giant rooster on one side of your face.<br><br>...That is, unless you live in a country & place where face tattoos are commonplace.<br><br>Ditto if you live out of a car & are known to be that guy who has no plans of ever getting a house, to just paint a picture demesnes-wise. - [https://www.reddit.com/r/Parahumans/comments/6kpxxn/_/djnyazu Comment by Wildbow] on Reddit</ref><ref>
:'''Can you have an underwater demesne? What about one floating in the air, with no structure?'''<br>
Generally we're solid beings who occupy solid spaces, not spaces of air or water or energy. You could dress it up as one of those, which is probably going to be easier to set up and more comfortable.<br><br>As to other options, well, ~yeah~ you could. But if you've noticed the trend outlined above, very often the cost is going to outpace the benefits.<br><br>And I gotta ask - why would you even want to? You want a place that's convenient to get into. Even if you have practice that lets you swim or fly up to some door in the sky... that's basically you setting yourself up to pay a toll every time you want to go home.- [https://www.reddit.com/r/Parahumans/comments/6kpxxn/_/djnxlzk Comment by Wildbow] on Reddit</ref> Similarly, a sapient demesnes/familiar hybrid is possible, but the result is significantly weaker, flouts tradition, and prevents one from ever gaining either a true demesnes or familiar by occupying both "slots".<ref>You can blend as a more permanent thing (not what Laird does). You can have a familiar plus demesnes for a more intelligent demesnes. A familiar plus implement for an object with a personality. An implement plus demesnes for a demesnes you could bring with you. Generally you take a pretty significant hit to power in exchange for some degree of utility. You also lose standing with practitioners and Others. I think I've posted on this before. If you have a talking motorcycle you're giving up 90% of the power of a proper implement and 90% of the power of a proper demesnes, but you're getting an implement that's more weighty and a comfortable seat that isn't limited to one place. And because you're a practitioner that's flouting convention then convention helps you less, so your practice in general isn't going to be all that. - [https://www.reddit.com/r/Parahumans/comments/8hx8vn/_/dyn7app/ Wildbow on Reddit]</ref>

[[Crooked Hat]] had a Demesne that overlapped with the [[Abyss]].<ref>“I can barely read your handwriting. Crooked Hat… he deals with <em>your</em> kind.”<br><br>“Yeah.”<br><br>“His Demesne overlaps with a section of the Abyss. He’s trying to learn to manipulate the Abyss to his own ends. The elder Duchamps thought it was enough of a prospect that we could, how to phrase it, metaphorically buy stock in the venture?” - [https://pactwebserial.wordpress.com/2014/11/15 Excerpt] from [[Execution 13.5]]</ref>

Some families are able to pass on a demesne to their descendants. Such a demesne is much less flexible, with a very limited ability to change it, and tends to mark the owner as a representative of their family rather than an individual.<ref name=":5" />

Certain beings, such as [[Conquest]], Advanced [[Bugge]]s, [[The Hyena]], or [[Nex Machina]]e, can form [[Realm#Depressions|Depression]]s; exerting such influence over an area and its spirits that it resembles a demesne in effect if not in the method of gaining that influence.<ref>“To be in Conquest’s domain is to be in a constant state of transition. Emotions rise and fall, there is fire and rebellion at first, then we make peace with the state of things. Broken things erode away, and then there is only defeat. But to be the Conqueror is not a simple thing either. They either take on a different role, which my lord cannot do, or they find new territory to seize, people to subjugate. The territory changes as he finds new ground.”<br><br>“I didn’t know a demesne could be this… out there. I mean, I read about apartments covered in flesh, but…”<br><br>“This isn’t a demesne, as you understand the term,” he said. “Some beings are strong enough to influence their surroundings simply by residing there.” - [https://pactwebserial.wordpress.com/2014/03/06 Excerpt] from [[Collateral 4.2]]</ref><ref>As things reach the point where an enveloping is complete or nearly complete, the Nex Machina will begin to distort reality and appear ‘in person’, manifesting its avatar. The area becomes something akin to a demesnes, but entirely hostile. Corridors may loop back on one another, traps may be in evidence, or the area may simply be a stalking ground for the avatar itself. The Avatar will close the deal, a seemingly unstoppable madman or monster that can disappear whenever it is out of sight, only to reappear and attack from another angle. It will enact and develop the urban legend that gave it existence, then close the deal, the enveloping effect closing around the target as they are then killed or pulled into the inner workings of the Nex Machina. - [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cwFiwUBPuDm4wV5THrv_dRfM7PuPHW6mCDxnPLvffV0/edit Beastiary: Nex Machina]</ref><ref>Raquel’s eyebrows went up. “Oh, you missed that one. Uhhh, so like, the biggest, most serious Others, including Incarnations, gods, great spirits, and whatever. They have a weight to them. He had this visual demonstration. Put something heavy down on a sheet of fabric, and it creates this dip. I might be explaining this badly.”<br><br>“Finish explaining and we can tell you if it’s a bad explanation,” Lucy said.<br><br>Yadira jumped in. “Big things, metaphysically, can create their own realms, just by being.”<br><br>“Like gravity?” Avery asked.<br><br>“More like the world’s a plastic bed,” Raquel said, “and you sit on it and it makes a dip, and if you pour water onto the bed it’ll settle in around your butt where the dip is.” - [https://palewebserial.wordpress.com/2020/11/03 Excerpt] from [[Cutting Class 6.3]]</ref> Some can reach the point that they are effectively crafting whole new realms with god-like authority, these are typically called [[Demiurge]]s.